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SHOCKED!!! Disney to buy Marvel

#21 User is offline   MJMcBride 

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:38 PM

View PostYoPaulie, on Aug 31 2009, 10:08 PM, said:

Yes. What is unclear is that the ride rights are not exclusive... meaning that Disney can develop a Spider-man attraction, as long as it is NOT what is over at IoA, for example.


I believe that IoA has exclusive theme park rights east of the Miss
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 08:43 PM

View PostQuickGold, on Sep 1 2009, 08:45 PM, said:

Considering Disney is spending 4 billion dollars, they better be utilizing the brand by putting their characters in the park


The interesting question is will Universal be OK with this. Why would Universal want to sell Disney t-shirts or comics. Why would they want to promote Disney characters?

http://www.mouseextra.com/2009/08/19/will-...unced/#comments

I am not sure they would want to. Why not paint the Hulk coaster a little darker or camouflaged and make a GI Joe Coaster. or perhaps with a little tinkering we have the Amazing Adventures of Optimus Prime
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 10:12 PM

View PostMJMcBride, on Sep 1 2009, 09:43 PM, said:

The interesting question is will Universal be OK with this. Why would Universal want to sell Disney t-shirts or comics. Why would they want to promote Disney characters?

http://www.mouseextra.com/2009/08/19/will-...unced/#comments

I am not sure they would want to. Why not paint the Hulk coaster a little darker or camouflaged and make a GI Joe Coaster. or perhaps with a little tinkering we have the Amazing Adventures of Optimus Prime

I see that happening within 5 years. For now they are just going to be stubborn
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Posted 01 September 2009 - 10:17 PM

View PostMJMcBride, on Sep 1 2009, 09:38 PM, said:

I believe that IoA has exclusive theme park rights east of the Miss


But ONLY for Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men, and Fantastic Four.


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Posted 02 September 2009 - 10:09 AM

View PostYoPaulie, on Sep 1 2009, 11:17 PM, said:

But ONLY for Spider-Man, Hulk, X-Men, and Fantastic Four.



where did you get that info?
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 03:07 PM

View PostMJMcBride, on Sep 2 2009, 11:09 AM, said:

where did you get that info?

My research is also saying that it is only the characters currently featured at IOA, which would only be those ATM
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 04:35 PM

I haven't weighed in on this yet, but in short, this was a stupid move on Disney's part.
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:19 PM

View Postdarthstich, on Sep 2 2009, 04:07 PM, said:

My research is also saying that it is only the characters currently featured at IOA, which would only be those ATM


That would be interesting since there is no Iron Man, Captain America or Avengers at IoA
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:20 PM

View PostGeneral Specific, on Sep 2 2009, 05:35 PM, said:

I haven't weighed in on this yet, but in short, this was a stupid move on Disney's part.


why?
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 05:42 PM

View PostMJMcBride, on Sep 2 2009, 11:09 AM, said:

where did you get that info?


The LA Times article I posted before.

Universal Studios has the rights in perpetuity for its Marvel Super Hero Island attraction at Universal's Islands of Adventure in Orlando, Fla., which includes rides based on Marvel characters Spider-Man, Dr. Doom, the Hulk and Storm, and features a number of other characters from the X-Men. The company, which is part of General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal, also has a 10-year-plus deal for its Spider-Man attraction at Universal Studios Japan.

It was not immediately clear, however, whether Universal's deal is exclusive or if Disney can, at some point, produce attractions based on those same characters at its theme parks.



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Posted 02 September 2009 - 08:24 PM

View PostYoPaulie, on Sep 2 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

The LA Times article I posted before.

Universal Studios has the rights in perpetuity for its Marvel Super Hero Island attraction at Universal's Islands of Adventure in Orlando, Fla., which includes rides based on Marvel characters Spider-Man, Dr. Doom, the Hulk and Storm, and features a number of other characters from the X-Men. The company, which is part of General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal, also has a 10-year-plus deal for its Spider-Man attraction at Universal Studios Japan.

It was not immediately clear, however, whether Universal's deal is exclusive or if Disney can, at some point, produce attractions based on those same characters at its theme parks.


so we don't know if Disney can make an Iron Man attraction for example

I know Marvel has the Avengers movie coming out in 2011. It promises to be big hype. Perhaps there will be an attraction at DHS
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Posted 02 September 2009 - 09:05 PM

I read it as Universal has rights to properties they already have attractions for, for all time.

Universal has no Ironman attraction, therefore, it's available to Disney. IMO


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Posted 03 September 2009 - 01:12 AM

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The ironic thing about this post is that X-Men: The Animated Series was originally produced by the same people who brought you the original Power Rangers before Disney got its white gloves into it and messed it up.


It isnít ironic at all. I grew up watching Spiderman and the X-men. I missed the power ranger craze by about 3-5 years. They were not geared towards my generation. You are what about 5-7 years younger than me (maybe a little more) and you were probably right at the age where they were pushing TMNT and Power Rangers. So its not really ironic. I just never had an interest in them due to my age t the time. Marvel on the other hand is pretty much timeless and has one shtick or another for each generation.

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I read it as Universal has rights to properties they already have attractions for, for all time.

Universal has no Ironman attraction, therefore, it's available to Disney. IMO


What about the border around the land? It has just about every popular marvel hero and villain I can think of. Magneto, mojo, iron man... they are all there. Do they count?
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Posted 03 September 2009 - 08:58 PM

View PostYoPaulie, on Sep 2 2009, 10:05 PM, said:

I read it as Universal has rights to properties they already have attractions for, for all time.

Universal has no Ironman attraction, therefore, it's available to Disney. IMO



I'm just not sure about that. I haven't seen any comment on it by either side

Nor have I seen any comment on whether DownTown Disney is a "theme park" under this agreement

I just can't help but think Universal will eventually decide they just want out of this
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Posted 05 September 2009 - 12:25 AM

Yeah, I think I agree with you.

Look for a new Cybertron Island, perhaps?


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Posted 07 September 2009 - 03:23 PM

So Disney can't afford to show Fantasmic! every night, but has a spare $4 billion to buy Marvel?
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 07:29 PM

View PostQuickGold, on Sep 7 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

So Disney can't afford to show Fantasmic! every night, but has a spare $4 billion to buy Marvel?

Yeah way to survive the economic crisis
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Posted 07 September 2009 - 11:30 PM

You're comparing apples and golf clubs on that one. Besides, most of the deal is in stock... it's estimated to be WORTH $4B, not actual cash of $4B.


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Posted 08 September 2009 - 02:59 PM

View PostQuickGold, on Sep 7 2009, 04:23 PM, said:

So Disney can't afford to show Fantasmic! every night, but has a spare $4 billion to buy Marvel?

My only guess is that's how they got part of the $4 Billion to buy Marvel.
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Posted 08 September 2009 - 04:18 PM

View PostYoPaulie, on Sep 8 2009, 12:30 AM, said:

You're comparing apples and golf clubs on that one. Besides, most of the deal is in stock... it's estimated to be WORTH $4B, not actual cash of $4B.

I understand Disney didn't deliver $4 billion in cash to Marvel, but there is still a substantial amount of capital being moved, even if a portion of it is in stock.

It's hard for me to fathom how Disney can cry poor with Fantasmic! and then be able to swing a $4 billion deal, regardless of how it's being paid. Don't get me wrong, I'm in favor of the deal, but if they can afford to acquire Marvel and not be in the poor house, they can afford to show Fantasmic! every night.
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